Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru The National Assembly for Wales Y Pwyllgor Cyfrifon Cyhoeddus The Public Accounts Committee
Dydd Mawrth, 28 Ionawr 2014 Tuesday, 28 January 2014
Cynnwys Contents Cyflwyniadau, Ymddiheuriadau a Dirprwyon Introductions, Apologies and Substitutions Papurau i’w Nodi Papers to Note Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i Benderfynu Gwahardd y Cyhoedd o’r Cyfarfod  Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to Resolve to Exclude the Public from the Meeting
Cofnodir y trafodion yn yr iaith y llefarwyd hwy ynddi yn y pwyllgor. Yn ogystal, cynhwysir trawsgrifiad o’r cyfieithu ar y pryd. The proceedings are recorded in the language in which they were spoken in the committee. In addition, a transcription of the simultaneous interpretation is included.
Aelodau’r pwyllgor yn bresennol Committee members in attendance
Mohammad Asghar	Ceidwadwyr Cymreig Welsh Conservatives
Mike Hedges	Llafur Labour
Alun Ffred Jones	Plaid Cymru The Party of Wales
Sandy Mewies	Llafur Labour
Darren Millar	Ceidwadwyr Cymreig (Cadeirydd y Pwyllgor) Welsh Conservatives (Committee Chair)
Julie Morgan	Llafur Labour
Jenny Rathbone	Llafur Labour
Aled Roberts	Democratiaid Rhyddfrydol Cymru Welsh Liberal Democrats
Eraill yn bresennol Others in attendance
Paul Dimblebee	Swyddfa Archwilio Cymru Wales Audit Office
Matthew Mortlock	Swyddfa Archwilio Cymru Wales Audit Office
Huw Vaughan Thomas	Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru Auditor General for Wales
Swyddogion Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru yn bresennol National Assembly for Wales officials in attendance
Claire Griffiths	Dirprwy Glerc Deputy Clerk
Joanest Jackson	Uwch-gynghorydd Cyfreithiol Senior Legal Adviser
Meriel Singleton	Ail Glerc Second Clerk
Dechreuodd y cyfarfod am 09:07. The meeting began at 09:07.
Cyflwyniadau, Ymddiheuriadau a Dirprwyon Introductions, Apologies and Substitutions
[1] Darren Millar: Good morning, everybody, and welcome to today’s meeting of the Public Accounts Committee. I have the usual housekeeping notices. As everybody is aware, the National Assembly for Wales is a bilingual institution and people should feel free to contribute to today’s proceedings in either English or Welsh, as they see fit. There are headsets available for translation and sound amplification. I encourage Members and others in the room to switch off their mobile phones and other electronic equipment, because they can interfere with the broadcasting equipment. In the event of a fire alarm, we should follow the directions of the ushers. We have not received any apologies for absence today, so we are expecting a full house.
Papurau i’w Nodi Papers to Note
[2] Darren Millar: We have a number of papers to note. We have the minutes of our meetings on 16 and 21 January. I take it that those are noted. We have an exchange of letters between the Auditor General for Wales and the Permanent Secretary on health finances 2012-13, which we can discuss a little later on in terms of the assistance that that gives to informing our report on that matter. We have two items of correspondence on unscheduled care. We have had a letter from David Sissling answering some of the questions arising from our oral evidence session with him and also some information from Hywel Dda Community Health Council. That is a report that the community health council produced after some survey work in accident and emergency departments in the area. That is a very interesting read. If Members are happy, I will take it that those items are noted.
09:08
Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i Benderfynu Gwahardd y Cyhoedd o’r Cyfarfod Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to Resolve to Exclude the Public from the Meeting
[3] Darren Millar: I move that
the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of today’s meeting in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(vi).
[4] Are there any objections? I can see that there are none, so we will go into private session.
Derbyniwyd y cynnig. Motion agreed.
Daeth rhan gyhoeddus y cyfarfod i ben am 09:09. The public part of the meeting ended at 09:09.